Most of the time internet deceives the audience by passing news about a healthy person as if they are dead. All the quotes you have seen from Cathy Tweed came from Tonys conversation with Taylers mother the day after she buried her daughter. Survey their public for disagreements wish the existing policies, and correct/modify them accordingly. I think A&E should interview Cathy Tweed - and give her time on their network after what has been done to her. Would you like a TV show to make an episode about you and your dead daughter without your consent, and second guess you like this to millions of people? Its psychology and psychology that are not allowed-not that Im ok with that. Unfortunately we have little . Tayler had not been out of Scientology very long, and the fear of modern medicine stuck with her still. Can they reform? Asserting that most Scientologists dont seek proper medical treatment (be it through alternative more natural methods, or through conventional medicine) when they need it, is not only false, but it is an assertion only trying to Back PR (denigrate through lies) Scientology and Scientologists. Ill check that out too. But what we have from BOTH sides is the dramatization of a huge Service Facsimile (You are wrong; I am totally right), that totally blind both parties from sensible communication. Another one of my increasing senior moments Im afraid. I do think Mike Rinder shouldve spoken up and recommended, Hey lets find another story where it is more apparent that the tech was a major factor in a suicide. The Horror! The No.1 UK for funeral notices, where you can search over 5,001,904. Mere assumptions, suppositions, and half-truths are presented as facts. As you say, it was the decision to air that segment using only Tony Ortegas information with no attempt to update it with anything new, or even fair, that I believe is the height of cruel emotional manipulation by Mike Rinder, Leah Remini, and the rest of the shows producers. But, for now, there were not many telecasts of Tyler Tweeds death cause on the news or any orbitary statements. Forum software by XenForo 2010-2013 XenForo Ltd. Perhaps not along these lines, no, but perhaps we can teach them to recover the compassion that was once part of the Scientology world on a long gone past, so they can AT LEAST be able to offer sensible recommendations, and referrals to responsible psychotherapists who dont use primitive methods of healing and dangerous drugs to help their patients. 1 2022 , , : / - , Copyright 2015 2024 rojgarlive.com All Rights Reserved. If the disability is pronounced to be curable within the skill of the physical practitioner and is in actual fact a disease or illness which surrenders to contemporary physical treatment, to require the person to be so treated before Scientology processing may be undertaken;. Scnists readily adopt these views as their own, which may result in a delay in proper medical treatment. It sounds a lot like the viewpoint of church Scientologists, dont you think? THEY TREAT PEOPLE WORSE THAN THE NAZIS! We considered as Illegal PCs among other things, of course those who had actually ATTEMPTED, not just thought of suicide. I can see the public interest perspective with this series and and other productions that seek to find a story and tell it,, it has been created with key words cult secret confidential gulag ,, and so on not to mention the mood music and lighting,,, Its what media does,, its never enough just to have a story confined to the specifics and analyse it,,,no one buys that approach anymore. Whether or not this is specific to sea org indoc, i dont know,, my experience has been with class 5 orgs as staff and public, tho the presence of advanced org staff has been more noticeable during the last period i was back on service 2005 -2010. A memorial service will . 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Well, do all mothers make some mistakes? Need help? She states that she did take her daughter to doctors, but what kind of doctors? Just like Brock, I think you just hate Scientology and Scientologists, and you want to tear one down, and Cathy Tweed seems like the perfect person for you to victimize. Mike is not sticking to a narrative like the narrative that most people who wanted the Catholic Church to stop child abuse stuck with that only focus on specific abuses, and on very specific and irrefutable evidence while leaving alone the religious aspects; but they are sticking to a narrative sort of : The church is an evil entity who doesnt believe in medicine, whose members never go see a medical doctor, and who are so brainwashed that they feel no loss when they lose their kids through Disconnection or death, and blah, blah. That pisses me off the most! The sudden death is a heart-wrenching event for all the friends and family. I also have know Freezoners who took psychiatric meds. Christopher Dewayne Redd. I cant get my comment posted because Im telling the truth about the sham that is Scientology. Its a cult with few members and lots of real estate, paying NO TAXES. HCO BULLETIN OF 11 JULY 1973RB RE-REVISED 21 SEPTEMBER 1978, ASSIST SUMMARY. Thats just part of the anti-Scientology narrative conveniently created by the anti-Scientology camp to drive home their own personal agendas. Yet he criticises the ones who do. And the church would be able to survive it. Obituaries. People are doxxing Cathy Tweed online. Not that unmuzzled stupid handling from the Instrospection Rundown. Clearly people go through much worse situations and never commit suicide. Words fall short of expressing our grief for your loss, as we mourn with family and friends for this great loss. But its a big stretch and a falsehood to broaden that to say the church doesnt treat the mentally ill. There are references for doing so going back to the first books, such as in Science of Survival with its Chart of Human Evaluation which specifies how to audit neurosis and psychosis. Bullshit. This screams Scientology to me. If we were to go and try to rescue those in the RPF or The Hole (if it even exist today, which I DOUBT it very much), they would probably say, What the fuck are you doing here? Born in Panama, he came to the United States in 1984 after earning his medical degree in Brazil at Universidade Federal de Santa Maria, and completed his residency in internal medicine through a. There isnt really hate involved. Discussion in 'News and Current Events' started by RightOn, Jan 20, 2014. Select a region on the map to view notices in your chosen area. Absolutely. Janice Ann Taylor, 79, of Bowmansville, passed away on Saturday, February 25, 2023, in her home surrounded by her loving family. No real mother would ever be truly at peace with a child blowing their head off. What the fuck do you call what you are doing? Born January 15th 1928 in County Donegal and died peacefully on January. Technically, what Mike and Leah are doing IS a documentary. It is the narrative of blame, destroy, and stereotyping others, and the attempt to make believe that some specific instances represent the attitudes of ALL Scientologists, that makes it wrong. Shes shining a light on some very horrific things. Would Scientology allow Tayler to see a psychiatrist accredited by the American Psychiatric Association? To plant Memorial Trees in memory of Mrs. Pamela Devone Taylor Edwards, please click here to visit our Sympathy Store . Most people, unless there was some kind of religious or ideological vengeance they wanted to exact, would never do such a thing to someone like that. Its the fact that they threw her out that gets me. In the other teaching (Rons too, I would say), Know is where intuition and wisdom lie. This has to be one of the most horrific videos I have seen posted by a parent in response to a suicide awareness video. I dont think that anybody here is denying that. And that includes posting it again, a year later, for a licensed therapist to psycho-analyze you using that quote of yours that you told to Tony on the day of your daughters funeral. Attention whore and trying to look like the good guy. Unless your experience results in greater tolerance and compassion and wisdom for suicide survivors what good is it? What are you going to say? Whatever this woman says relating to how she tried to help cannot be taken seriously because she followed Hubbard.that makes her statements and response null and void. Dec. 4, 2022. I beg to differ, Statpush, and I am not trying to influence your opinion here. The tax exemption could be either revoked or revised, and a fair payment plan could be allowed for any past payments required as a result of such a revocation or revision. Apparently it was a policy set by Hubbard that one needed to find out about any health issues and then get it or them taken care of before starting this course. I think they do just fine but I do not expect them to get everything right. Have you ever seen a suicide survivor have a show done about her that blames her for her daughters suicide to millions of people? Thank you, Jim Dandy!! And its ridiculous to expect the church to reform along these lines.. I think that we all need a second chance at redemption, forgiveness, and the opportunity to right our wrongdoings. Thats just rhetorical horse shit! About not showing compassion when one former member of the religion (or whatever group for that matter) has suffered a loss or any abuse, regardless if the group in question is guilty of or not of such abuses or losses. http://whyweprotest.wikia.com/wiki/Scientology_Suicides#The_dead_cannot_tell_us. He was the oldest living past master of. At one point, she expressed frustration at being blamed for making her SO brother ill (whom she had not seen for years). Scientology is a cult that is a criminal organization with very few members and lots of real estate. January 23, 1924 - January 3, 2022 U.S. But the one thing I disagree with Tony on is that the church had nothing to do with her suicide. No more complex than that really. . Larry Hale. This makes me absolutely sad You are saying that you were taking your daughter to doctors when Scientologist dont believe in doctors she should have went to a therapist and got help when she needed it !!. But Im sure that for anyone who has buried their child, the day after is still the same day. Mike Rinder DAILY post at his blogs stories NOT related in any way (save for when an The Aftermath show is aired) to specific abuses, but mostly trying to prove to his sheeple that the church is not as big as they claim it is, how the buildings are empty, how the Volunteer Ministers really dont help anybody, etc, etc, etc, etc. Marvin Ernest Seibold. They know who they are,, and will leave it at that. Would you want those teachings to be licensed? They married three years later in 2013 and had two children-Luke Joseph Bass (8) and . I mean, just today Mike posted something basically mocking all those Scientologists who at least are trying to help at the disaster at Texas. In my pre Miscavige time I looked at scn as a form of psychology and self improvement. Douglas R. Tweed, 84, passed away Monday, March 20, 2017, at Mayo Clinic Health System in Barron, Wis. Instead of being referred to a mental health provider, the church attempted to sell another expensive auditing package to her family. I mean, she LITERALLY begged them to let her stay, but she couldnt even go inside the building. Id like to know what some experienced tech people have to say on the subject. And what does the actual record indicate with respect to what auditing can do for it? The passing of Tyler Tweed has brought a lot of sadness to Tyler Tweed family, and lets pray that their mourning and agonizing end sooner. Part of the questionnaire, included questions to locate what was called Illegal PCs as per the ILLEGAL PCS, ACCEPTANCE OF HIGH CRIME BULLETIN PL. One keeps building on the wisdom because ones data in the world of duality keeps increasing, while at the same time ones ability to connect with the divine (non-duality) also increases. #ScientologyTheAftermath" Mr. Dennis Wayne "Butch" Tweed, age 69, Limestone, passed away peacefully Saturday, February 25, 2012 at his residence surrounded by his family. And if the narrative of the program was not, Scientology need to be stopped and destroyed which IS the one theyve been using even if not in those words but instead a plea for reformation for the greater good, we might have gotten somewhere in terms of reformation. However, most Scn watchers do not have the time, resources, or capacity to explore all facets of a Scn-related event. Nice try, Thetaclear. Your baby girl of 27 years killed herself and you're "at peace" with it 72 hours after she leaves this earth forever? 1 p.m. Burke Memorial Park. Perhaps we ex(es) have forgotten our Auditors Hat to the world, and became insensitive. I consider my point PROVED! But theres a reason. Now, I challenge anyone to show me ANY reference where Scientology prohibits seeing a medical doctor; ANY. I suspect Mike and Leahs tactics are based on the supposition that public exposure to harmful practices results in reformation. Sorry, Al. Currently, our team is striving hard to know what Tyler Tweeds cause of death was. But thats obviously not good enough for you. However, we assure you that we will add the factual details once they are available. My step-Mom asked me last week if it was true that Scientology doesnt allow its members to use medical doctors. They, incorrectly, do not give it the attention it deserves. But, lets just face the facts..it was awfully tempting to run with the Tayler story because one of her best Scientology friends was the daughter of Hollywoods own Alex Gibney. Your search results for obituary: 26 newspaper articles contained information about obituary filtered by: Date from: 1st Apr 1973 - Date to: 30th Apr 1973 Alanzo: Not any longer. It is unnatural. But my first impulse and action, is to try to reform and rehabilitate the individual. This is part of the STANDARD policy to handle, insanity (mental illnesses), what LRH called Sources of Trouble, and physical healing. Hear your loved one's obituary. Today, I would just get those to sign a waiver, if I were to audit them. In my mind, at least the point about freedom of religion did relate to Cathy Tweed. Naturopaths? Mr. Ricky Dale Tweed, age 54, Telford, passed away Wednesday, August 13, 2014 from injuries sustained in an automobile accident. And G) Getting the person to get in communication with the people she/he had neglected, but that they were in good ARC with, so as to raise their general ARC for life. Tayler deserved so much better! This link is about the dangerousness of many psychiatric treatments by a psychiatrist himself, Dr. Peter Breggin : Now, many anti-Scientology individuals will say that Dr. Breggin works for Scientology, or is or was a Scientologists, just because his narrative is similar in many ways to the one used by CCHR. Of course he knows. Now, the anti-Scientology narrative and the anti-Scientologists would attempt us to believe that LRH was only a lunatic who thought that psychiatry was guilty of many Human Rights abuses, and of many abusive treatments; and that ONLY Scientology opposes psychiatry. Leah Remini is very aware of this, and is using it to her advantage, but in an irresponsible way, IMHO. Taylor was never shown any kindness this church simply needs to be stopped. Maybe if she had felt more support in her own family or in her own mother, instead of being publicly criticized by the very people whom should always be on her side, she wouldnt have taken such drastic measures. There really is nothing there TO reform. But, if that condition did not resolve they would seek traditional medical treatment. But did L. Ronald Hubbard intend it that way? Obituary Marshall - Tyler S. Tweed, age 24, passed away unexpectedly on Wednesday December 14, 2022, in Iowa. Perhaps no more than a 70-80% of the time, I did followed LRH, , Getting back on trackwhat could the church do to reform this aspect of their religion (if were to believe Mike and Leah)? Have you ever been to one of your own childrens funerals? Of course, we were mostly trying to avoid future lawsuits and PR flaps. Fortunately, I was able to take the mother of my daughter off the lines after she has been kept for almost 50 hours!!! Hundreds or thousands (or even millions) individuals thinking in one direction, against a few of us who got tired of being one-sided and used as sheeple to support a narrative made up of injustice, generalizations, and desires for punishment and revenge. 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