why did barlow kill walt's wife

One episode ago, we didnt think this guy was actually going to be doing anything productive. She had stopped at a campground where she fixated on a happy family laughing and holding hands. Is is possible no one shot anyone or is it possible that someone else shot either Barlow or Branch? Walt Longmire (Robert . 3:37 am. I feel like the Longmire writers gave us a study in variations of a familial crazy gene this season. So Ifeel theres a very good chance. Aha! I think the writers might go in a different direction than killing one of them off. Please bring the Longmire BACK even if it re runs. IMO (2 cents), I think Barlow killed himself, thus setting Branch free to be his own man, thus creating another son, not created in his fathers image. 10:30 pm. He pulled a gun on Walt who was forced to shoot him down. First, Id like to raise. Maybe Branch shot at the clay and missed. I also agree with[b] emsA2[/b], it is going to take a lot for Walt and Cady to overcome Branchs problemshis insanity (however temporary) and most of all, how does one overlook the fact that your deputy/lovers father had your mom killed or at least, framed Walt; and was willing to let The Bear pay for it? I think it was ridges. I bet a lot of Longmire viewers watch Major Crimes. Also, I cant remember details of the explanation of how exactly Martha died but maybe the payment was to kill Walt and Martha got in the way? Finale did not disappoint. All the tributes proved just how many people Hector had helped and how much he was missed. [b]emsA2 [/b]Appreciated your take on the VicWaltship. I totally agree. giambotta recipe lidia; anxiety operational definition; kotor things to do before leaving taris Wasnt expecting the possibility of Branchs dad being the person responsible for Marthas death. Feel dumb for asking, but what was in the jar Henry took out of the rocks at the end? Boom! I just think the writers wont get it right and ruin the whole. Im not a fan of the omminous grand story arc format. Im sure the writers have been to all the boards and taken note of viewers feelings, hence the change in the Gorski affair storyline. Never apologize for the length around here. Like something out of the J.K. Rowling school of character naming. 3:26 am. I only wish they would warn you that the episode is going long. Just in case that wasnt emotional enough, we then hen had the moment where Walt was crying in a field, feeling regret and shame over what he was about to do. I noticed that they were not so obliging this year. Why does Barlow kill branch? August 5, 2014 @ Who is the father of Vic's baby on Longmire? This is an attempt to do whats right, and wash himself free of the familys sins. I remember reading once that many settlers of Wyoming were driven mad by some combination of the incessant wind of the high plains and the loneliness. Not at this point. Billy Rayburn Even Amazon who had season 1 VOD with a season pass when I asked about season 2 had no clue when/if season 2 would be available via their VOD. . 5:19 am. . Announce a Season 4 and give us at least 12 episodes! And I appreciate everyone that joined in the conversation over the past ten weeks. This is a great cast. Havent seen her lately . If A&E decides it doesnt want to renew Longmire, Warner can pitch it to another station, correct? Outside the office, Longmire bars Branch from going in. [b]snowdogmom[/b], 100% support more Lucian Connally and having him partner up with Walt again. Florida Gov. The for group can also rant, just not as loudly. I was honestly surprised to read this There is even an owl handler on the first set. Looking forward to Season 4! I liked that Branch has discovered his father hired out the murder of Walts wife before Walt learned it. One of the reasons characters question the Longmore character is so the audience will have an idea of what is going on, given that Longmire is supposed to be so un-communicative. Great season finale! These three characters need to interact a lot more. August 5, 2014 @ Glad you asked this? I really dont want to see Walt & Vic in a relationship. Henry genuinely asks, Someone stole a corpse? Ferg comments, I know. Later in the novel it is revealed that Carson Wells, a hired assassin hired by a local drug . August 5, 2014 @ I hope Branch isnt dead, but it seems like he might be and sometimes great characters have to die to advance a story.of course it could be his father who was shot, so.. Cindy Pierce I have a feeling Vics husband is not out of the picture yet. [b]Penny[/b], I also dont see Cady backtracking with Branch. OnTheElk There seems to me to be too much left undone if Barlow is eliminated, the money trail needs both Jacob and Dad Connally before the court of law to sort Casino land interests (What Martha knew), gun for hires, shell corporations, and find the Malachi (furlow) dirty connectionpowerful positions must have been utilized. By visiting this site, you consent to have cookie data stored. Robert W. Hamlett Fair or not. They run a marathon of the current season during the day on a Friday? Under the pen name of Edward A. Grainger, David Cranmer writes the continuing adventures of Cash Laramie and Gideon Miles. The interplay between Henry & Walt seems true to Craig Johnson books. Good fare & the TV series does not really follow the books story lines, so its not redundant. It was moving to see Walt's body language, as if he were still reaching out for Martha as the remains sifted through his fingers. Barlow needed the Casino in the county to further his business interests, so he has her killed. Whether the producers/actors will let us know or not, who knows. kickyourace Ill be so disappointed if it doesnt return! Hopefull, if there is a S4, they can move forward much more freely. They dont even respond on their various Facebook pages. Please be back with season 4 soon. However, the writers make some odd choices so I would not be surprised if suddenly they try to write them as some great romance, but I hope that Cady gets a new love interest. And Walts not going to kill anyone, especially not the wrong guy! [b]Edward[/b], I meant Branch no longer in the Sheriffs office, but remaining on the show as Walts nemesis as mayor or running his fathers company. So thats why (in terms of story justice) Longmire got to shoot Ridges himself, even though he doesnt yet know that it was Ridges who killed Miller Beck. Really enjoy all your comments! But as we both stated all are entitled to their opinion. Lou Stefano Several times in the finale tonight it showed Walts dashboard with a white hand print. If Ridges had killed Branch at the end of last season, this season would have been even more dark and intense as they investigated his murder. August 5, 2014 @ Bailey Chase and Katee Sackhoff certainly deserve some recognition for their intense scenes. And I can go either way on arcs versus standalones. The kind of thing that just leaves you breathless. My open question is why did both Henry and Walt go after Miller Beck before Ridges killed him? emsa2, I think Walt deserved a drink after what hes had to deal with and more than a Raineer. So, we wait and see if A&E is really about ENTERTAINMENT and renews Longmire. He had confronted his father about the $50,000 payment supposedly paid to Jacob Nighthorse. HOOTIEWHO, LONGMIREA CONNALLY CONUNDRUMBRANCH OR BARLOWOR BOTH? I cant see that person living in the half finished cabin or driving that Casi-NO bumper-stickered car. His little fit last week was overdue, IMO. It would really be a shame if it is renewed. He had no idea about Barlow being involved. Arcs settled. Was it just a device to let us hear Marthas voice as Walt was going to spread her ashes or was there more significance? I just hope for a season 4 because I like the show even with whatever flaws it has. A&E gets first right of refusal, and then any other network could work out a deal with Warner. I think Henry took the jar with requests for Hectors services because he is going to take over the role of providing justice to the Cheyenne when they cant get it anyplace else. I hope they do surprise me! I doubt well get more. Id call this an A+ episode even though all the loose ends surrounding Marthas and Miller Becks deaths werent tied up well enough. Though Walt had successfully been found innocent despite the efforts of Barlow's associates. Also, thank you for stopping by. [b]samanthajane[/b], That was a nice touch with Vic taking care of Walts ear in the bar. Pretty sick, right? What a hoot (owl pun intended). August 5, 2014 @ I love that it can do case of the week episodes while still having small, multiple episode arcs, as well as season and series-long arcs. Branchs true calling strikes me as a politician not a lawman. Branch then delivers his father up to Longmire (his alternate father figure). What a great finale and another great season! Drax The Destroyer She is a far better deputy than Branch or Ferg. Thats true of most of the top TV shows though. What makes this show so great is the characters and their interactions especially with each other in solving crimes. PaulK, I feel after he spread Marthas ashes he was headed to confront Jacob Nighthorse. Ive enjoyed reading everyones comments and you all have given me a lot to think about going forward to season 4. Very much appreciated. Im going to go out on a shaky limb and say that there is the possibility Branch and Barlow did not shoot at one another. leave the good ones alone. I like a balance. Very good points, [b]Penny[/b]. Ratings are a fact of life. August 5, 2014 @ By Jesse Clark / Sept. 28, 2021 5:31 am EST. Unless there is something business wise (contract negotiations going on?) Was anyone curious who took off in Walts truck just prior to David Bridges attack in last weeks episode? I think Henry will start doing what Hector would do because of the guilt he feels about Hectors death, Kate11208 Crossfire is a series about three families who are staying in a holiday resort on a Spanish island when gunmen come into the premises and begin to shoot. Christine It deserves more promotion a better time slot and it will get many more fans. What was that with Branch rubbing the paint on Ridges face in the morgue? Branch, knowing his father and being very wary of him, had stepped close enough to Barlow to interfere with the shot and perhaps strike him in the head with the butt of his shotgun. Bringem Back!! Ive had the same problem with getting new people to get interested in Longmire, though, that [b]Dog[/b] expressed. I agree with all of you. 3:19 am, All content copyright 2011-2022 CarterMatt.com, This site uses cookies to track and store data. Charles S. Dutton portrayed a FBI agent who'd been trying to reach Walt for awhile. My guess is yes. Another scene that had me chuckling out loud was when Longmire and Henry head off to Colorado to dig up Miller Beck's bodylooking for a warrior's feather lodged in the throat of Martha Longmires killerand they get caught by the local law. I finally thought to Google longmire owl symbol and found a great article from June 4, 2012 interviewing Craig Johnson. And thank you for the compliment. Now, he's suddenly very much in the news because the new hit film, "Jesus Revolution," covers aspects of his life story from the late '60s and early '70s. Well, friends, I have heard they cancelled Longmire. In Branchs tired, vacant stare at his would-be assassin, theres a mixture of disbelief that his ordeal is finally over, perhaps, wondering if, even now, the corpse wont come back alive for one more encounter. I concur everyone is entitled to their opinion. I am glad that Henry is free and the truth is about about Barlow. He releases her ashes onto the ground where he promised 'til death do us part years ago. Was wondering what was in the jar that Henry picked up off of that Wall?! It sounds kind of Longmirish. I assume that came from ridges war paint. August 5, 2014 @ Longmire fan 308 His face changed. mr.tufts 3:26 am. Walt is a native of Durant, Wyoming, the county seat of fictional Absaroka County, named after the real-life Absaroka Native Americans, the Absaroka Range, and the 1930s effort to declare a U.S. state called Absaroka out of three existing states. Jane Davis The only reason I watch A&E is to watch Longmire. Free through late August. That is what drew me to the series: incredible writing and beautifully crafted, works-of-art level episodes that still haunt me like Dog Soldier. I have watched Longmire from the beginning of S1 and then I read the books. Plus TNT would actually promote Longmire. Now, Im finding that my current favorite show might be cancelled? The Season 1 DVD didnt come out until a year after season 1 aired and when asked about Blu-Ray version, nothing. When she finds out about how she was injured by his scheme with Nighthorse and his Branchs other behavior, I expect she will be done with him. It was still able to hook me so that by the end of S2 I was head over heels. I like Longmire, but it would much be better with more daring writing and less predictable plots. It seems it would be harder than simply walking in and having Walt say okay then but not impossible. Not too many folks are that willing to catch up with a new show. Keep up the good work!! [b]My other thoughts: [/b] I blame AE for that a lot. I am pro- what I call The VicWaltship but not in any hurry. 4:18 am. She was on 24 a few seasons ago. I do remember them talking about deciding who Walt would see IN the cabin and choosing Cady because they believed Walt would only see Martha just before he died. August 5, 2014 @ Is Branch dead? August 6, 2014 @ I want to be clear: this doesnt have anything to do with the, We Light the Way, the fifth episode of HBOs House of the Dragon, feels like the end of Part 1. It would seem for outward appearances they are after the quick buck and not entertainment thus the cheaply made farsical reality fiascos. Did you hear his say that he cant make another fortune but he could make another son ? In the back of the sheriffs vehicle, David Ridges (David Midthunder) lies dead. Also Ive finally come to accept the Walt & Vic relationship. Longmire averaged 3.5 million this season (almost 3.7 for the finale); a bit off from S3 (3.7). Those story arcs were part of the cause for so many Vic haters and strong feelings Walt and Vic should not get together. I am going to catch up on the books before a new season begins (if it does, fingers crossed) and will try to review the first two tv seasons with the comments of all in mind. August 5, 2014 @ It is this unpredictability that contributes to the success of Game of Thrones and The Walking Dead. Maybe the writers will bring Lizzie Ambrose (the other blonde) back to add a little competition for Vic but Im fairly certain the relationship between Walt and Vic is a done deal. I know when Longmire was recommended to me (I started in the middle of S2), I had little idea as to the numerous sub-plots that seemed to actually dominate the heart beat of the story. It was a right between the eyes message to the viewers: look at this, if you didnt get it before this is a man of huge passions who keeps them tightly reigned. . But then it can be fun to think it about it anyway. Ron DeSantis signed a bill on Monday to take control of municipal services and development for the special zone encompassing Walt Disney . Katee tweeted something about S4 already but my guess is they told her to reserve her before officially announcing A&E wouldnt end another show with a main character in mortal danger would they..ie Glades Matt seems to have landed OK though on USA Network. I initially thought he was comptemplating suicide but then figured that was just not his personality. "The cowboy has always been a dying breedBut he takes his dying slowly, perched upon his steed." Once the Absaroka County sheriff, Lucian now lives in a retirement community where he often causes trouble out of boredom. . Im a latecomer to posting comments but Ive enjoyed reading the recaps and viewers comments. Thank you for the article link, emsA2! I dont think we know who killed his wife. Branch will make a comeback in one form or another, and I do not believe this show will be cancelled, moved to another network perhaps, but A&E needs this show. August 5, 2014 @ I felt like he was at Hectors wall to honor him but then it seemed like more than just that when he took the jar. I kept watching the clock as the minutes were dwindling down, wondering what surprises were left in store. I however have been on sites where people are downright nasty if you express you like the Vic character, or say she has some redeeming quailties, or she is the most reliable deputy, or disagree with their opinion at all and the same people post over and over and over and over again even when the topic may not be about Vic and they have already expressed their opinion. ET on A&E), the case of Walt's dead wife came back into the show in a big way.Charles S. Dutton portrayed a FBI agent who'd been trying to reach Walt for awhile. I like syfy but this is better than the walking dead. Miller was the man suspected of killing Walt's wife, who had also been killed. It is A&E fault for poor promotion of Longmire from day 1. If the jar that Henry took was new requests for Hectors help, I wonder how he will handle them dont see him beating people up and pulling teeth. Warner actually films the show and sells it to A&E, as I understand it. A&E was never the right network for Longmire. For me it worked in Bones both with Booth and Brennen and Hodges and Angela, worked in The Closer with Brenda and Fritz, and also so far has worked in Castle. I mostly lurk here but have followed these recaps and enjoyed them very much. The whole Sean and Gorski story arcs were not needed. 13 August 2012. by Jason Hughes. 1:06 pm. Perhaps, Bear has something there he doesnt want to risk anyone seeing. Btw thank you for all your comments this past season. He feels responsible for Hectors death, prelude to Henry storyline for season 4. emsA2 I wanted a like button fro your comments. I have lost a lot of shows I like because of low ratings. Branch confronts Barlow and Barlow kills him, but makes it look like a suicide. August 5, 2014 @ Barlow needed the Casino in the county to further his business interests, so he has her killed. Why does Barlow kill branch? I couldnt see Lizzie for Walt. I never watch A&E anymore, other than The Glades and Longmire. They can keep their zombies, post apolcolyptic societies, and fighting worldwide pandemics sagas. One of only a handful of truly great drama and intelligent writing for adults. Published by Clayton Newton on November 28, 2022. August 5, 2014 @ LOVE THIS SHOW!! [b]CarolK[/b], Im not exactly sure about the moment when Branch stood in front of the mirror with what Im assuming was war paint. DrewOFB, A very quick check says the song was Lawdy by The Vespers. 4:50 pm. ! moments (insert voice of Annie Savoy, Susan Sarandans character in Bull Durham, responding to Crash Davis little speech about what he believes in in matters of the heart) Ive ever seen on TV. I have read all the books and highly recommend them. If the arc is well done, like Ridges, I dont mind. That seems like a stretch.Thats the question I want answered He says everything he does is for his family, but how does killing her help his family? August 5, 2014 @ 4:36 pm. Like CarolK I wonder if a third party arrived on the scene (not Walt of course). Communi-Fan Normally we have to wait for weddings for this type of, Remember last week when I praised House of the Dragon for not holding our hands while it zoomed through the story? With that finale I am really looking forward to the next season. Maybe? Inside, Longmire commands Ferg (Adam Bartley) to clean out Branchs desk and take the man his belongings while the sheriff and Vic Moretti (Katee Sackhoff) set out to arrest Jacob Nighthorse. I simply dont watch television, with the exception of Monday nights. In the books, he is The Bear and I dont think that any of this seasons troubles would have happened to him! Ive had enough of Branch the crazy rogue this season. Everyone on this show makes the most of their screen time. It was Branchs big redemption! Characters dont transition from one show to another like that, specially on completely different networks and eras. 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